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    scole1
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    I firmly believe that childcare settings are too women orientated. Boys and girls get so used to seeing ‘women’ do all their caring. I know its probably a different case at home where both parents may do equal childcare. But I think most childcare facilities would benefit from male workers. Same way nursing used to be for females only and now there are many male nurses. The children benefit.

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    scole1
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    scole1
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    glad to report that there are 2 men currently studying to become montessori teachers…great news think men can add alot to the education and care of children…

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    hjs
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    From the article…

    "Being a man in a woman’s world does pose problems. One man who wanted to remain anonymous has worked with children in the Dublin area for several years. In his experience, there are different rules for men and women, and the spectre of child abuse looms large, even though all child care workers are subject to the same vetting procedures."

    …sadly, I think that’s at the root of why some men, perhaps a lot, wouldn’t pursue a career in this area, which is really, really sad, a rotten reflection on today’s society. Kids, ESP boys, need male role models in education otherwise they are at risk of seeing education (reading and writing being the bottom line of this) as "female" activity.As I recall from teaching days and training days, this is particularly likely if there is no male role model at home, or if boys are from particular soci-economic backgrounds.

    Thing I’ve always thought about garda/police vetting, and I don’t know what the alternative is, is that all it does is tell you what people HAVE or HAVEN’T done in their past – they don’t predict what they will do in the future. As I say, haven’t devoted enough brain space to work out a possible better alternative, but there have been a few high profile cases in UK recently where WOMEN have been kinda grooomed iyl by a guy on internet to acquire images of child abuse FROM THE NURSERIES THEY WORKED IN (!!!!!?) when they have never done anything in that way at all before.

    How would you prevent that?

    #103705
    Daisy37
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    I spoke with a male midwife last year who has been training in hospitals and assisting at births for a while and he said the response to him has been generally positive but some women do firmly request a woman instead of him.

    I asked some mums and mums-to-be about their thoughts on a male midwife and a high number of the women I asked said they would not be comfortable with that – yet many women pay lots of money for private male obgyn consultants??? that one is a puzzler to me???

    Its seems a similar thing with pre-school/montessori, people are more receptive to females but when it gets to primary or secondary schools, there is no problem with male teachers….we seem to be contradicting ourselves???

    #103722
    happymumblemum
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    Yes a lot of peoples responses about Men in charge of a class/ outing/ group dodgy things may spring to mind..same as Priests really..for the millions that do good and are absolutely fine there are a few that aren’t and every one gets tarred with the same sticky brush..

    One one hand the protection thing has gone too far as like hjs said you can’t predict what people may do..and kids are still a million times more likely to be run over in the street than groomed and abducted/ abused by a paedophile..but saying that its better to be safe than sorry..

    Is society saying we wouldn’t trust any man with our kids until he had been vetted? Most dodgy people haven’t been caught so police records would show nothing…

    Do we need to educate ourown children more as to how to handle themselves in wierd situations? But how can we for babies/ small kids??

    God its a terrible world we live in ..its a lottery really and we just have to hope life plays out well for us..

    Would like to see more Male teachers though..
    Sorry rambling here

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    hjs
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    Is society saying we wouldn’t trust any man with our kids until he had been vetted? Most dodgy people haven’t been caught so police records would show nothing…

    yes, thats my worry too 🙁

    #103882
    scole1
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    i think men can add an awful lot to the lives of a child…and yes i think it’s terrible that people have the preconcieved idea that men are in childcare for some other motive….we as women have fought for many jobs that were mainly stereotyped for men and we have had the chance to show that we can work just as well as men in many different sectors so why can’t men be given the chance in childcare without being thought or labbelled as mmm that’s strange…

    all persons who wish to work in the area of children have to be vetted and what’s to say that a woman is a safer bet than a male carer…

    you only have to look at recent news events and past to see that women have been culprits in child abuse cases in childcare settings…

    bring on the men give them the chance and let us not just have them as primary or secondary teachers but if they wish to work in early years setting let’s welcome them with open arms…

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